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Hi again Mr. Lemos,

the same script as finally worked in gmail I tried with another server using appropriate info and all it says, after taking a long time to load, is

Connecting to wiscmail.wisc.edu ...

this is the info provided me by wiscmail administrator
"The pop e-mail server address is wiscmail.wisc.edu. The ports that work
are 25, 465 and 587. I hope this helps"
this is what i had
$pop3=new pop3_class;
$pop3->hostname="wiscmail.wisc.edu";
$pop3->tls=1;
$user="someuser";
$password="somepassword";
$pop3->realm="";
$pop3->workstation="";
$apop=0;
$pop3->authentication_mechanism="USER";
$pop3->debug=1;
$pop3->html_debug=1;
$pop3->join_continuation_header_lines=1; /

i also had port:465

my god can u edit out my user info?

i am so stupid today (aka tired)

If this is a Google Apps installation, I suppose the port is 995.

this is not a google apps i am just using test_pop3.php to connect to a POP3 webserver at wiscmail.wisc.edu which the server admin told me the ports that work (see above post) ill try 995 but i doubt that the admin was wrong.

it worked! i cannot believe it, they told me that port 995 would not work and gave me three specific ports they said work with wiscmail.

i bow to you mr. lemos.

once I finish my site, I will show to you :D